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    If you are worried about the 'skills' some have, try looking at the photographers in scotland that have the completed the scottish masters photographers courses, all of these photographers have had their work assessed to be part of this group of photogrpahers and they have to meet certain standard, so you won't have any worries about their abilities you can find them here - http://www.thempa.com/ this does cut the number of photographers in scotland right down,depends if its an important to you for your photogapher to have this. Thats how I found mine.
    I'd second that but also look at the BIPP and SWPP as they are equally as recognised as the MPA in the UK.

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    Hi Mike

    We spoke with a photographer this evening and they explained that most SWPP and BIPP members just pay a membership fee and it means nothing. Alternatively those who are LSWPP and LBIPP - it just means basic competence. Meanwhile the MPA is similar. I had a look at some MPA photographers in the region I am getting married and quite a few seemed to specialise in portraits and not weddings. At the end of my day the photographer we met said look at full wedding albums and full weddings on-line as well as meet your photographer in person. One of the names above was someone we considered - they are in the MPA but looking at their blog the photographs look orange and are poorly posed. They were also very expensive which just goes to show MPA membership and £1000's is no guarantee of quality.

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    I booked Sheila Galvin. I loved her style. Very relaxed and natural. I'm not keen on overly posed photos. I met her at a wedding fayre. She was so lovely and seemed really enthusiastic about her work. Her packages start at £995 and includes a full consultation and pre-wedding shoot.

    http://www.sheilagalvinphotography.co.uk/

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureMrsAdie View Post
    I booked Sheila Galvin. I loved her style. Very relaxed and natural. I'm not keen on overly posed photos. I met her at a wedding fayre. She was so lovely and seemed really enthusiastic about her work. Her packages start at £995 and includes a full consultation and pre-wedding shoot.

    http://www.sheilagalvinphotography.co.uk/
    Sorry packages actually start at £650!

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    We spoke with a photographer this evening and they explained that most SWPP and BIPP members just pay a membership fee and it means nothing. Alternatively those who are LSWPP and LBIPP - it just means basic competence. Meanwhile the MPA is similar. I had a look at some MPA photographers in the region I am getting married and quite a few seemed to specialise in portraits and not weddings. At the end of my day the photographer we met said look at full wedding albums and full weddings on-line as well as meet your photographer in person. One of the names above was someone we considered - they are in the MPA but looking at their blog the photographs look orange and are poorly posed. They were also very expensive which just goes to show MPA membership and £1000's is no guarantee of quality.
    Hi Sarah, I would certainly agree with looking at full wedding albums, both in person and online and, of course, it's essential to meet with the photographer to see if you have that rapport with them, which is very very important come the wedding day.

    I think the point I was trying to make about the organisations is that if someone is going to look at the MPA as a starting point, then they should also consider the BIPP and SWPP as well, as this will give you a wider selection to choose from. You are correct in that photographers can just join one of these organisations as a basic member and not undertake any of the prosessional qualifications. However, the organisations websites do make it clear which photographers are non-qualified members and which are qualified and then what level of qualification they hold. It should also state what field the photographer has obtained their qualification in, eg weddings.

    I would be wary of using the description "basic competence" for the standard that is required to acheive the first level of qualification - the Licentiateship. I think a more accurate description would be "entry level qualification, showing an established professional level of skill and competence". Please believe me when I say that this is not easy to acheive, as photographers will have had to shot numerous weddings and be mentored along the way in order to achieve this level. Of course, there will always be some photographers who have achieved this level who's work you do not like for various reasons. Likewise, there will always be some very good photographers who are not members of one of the organisations. It's all a matter of personal choice but what you do get with using a photographer from one of the organisations is that you have somewhere to turn to should your wedding photography not meet with expectations.

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    I would highly recommend William Wilson, he did our engagement shoot and our wedding and there isn't a single picture I would change/dont like. He has a facebook page so you can check out all kinds of different work and styles that he does.
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    Hi
    I have read your post with an interest and I think I will be able to help. This is a photographer that my friend used for her wedding back in March. The photographer was very helpful during initial consultations (responsive etc ) and extremely professional during the wedding. And the pictures that my friend received were brilliant mix of informal and formal ones. And it was all for very very reasonable money..
    I decided to use Kris for my wedding as well. He has lots of recommendations from his clients, and I am meeting him this weekend to discuss the big day.
    Have a look at his website: www.krissoulphotography.co.uk and let me know what you think. I will come back after the meeting and will let you know how it went, if you want, of course .
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    I used to be a wedding photographer, (and one of the best men is a photographer!) and thought I'd never find a photographer I liked and could trust, and was actually considering not having one atall. But then someone on here recommended Heyes Images http://www.heyesimages.co.uk/ We met up with them and clicked straight away, and I instantly knew I wanted them to do it! That's not going to stop me taking my own camera on the day though... x
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    Hi there!

    I also prefer reportage style to posed photos and which why I chose this photographer for my wedding day. Why donít you have a peek at his gallery and his informal photos on his website www.krissoulphotography.co.uk Oh, and most importantly, he is extremely reasonably priced and does only CD packages. Good luck with your wedding!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashley View Post
    Hi there!

    I also prefer reportage style to posed photos and which why I chose this photographer for my wedding day. Why don’t you have a peek at his gallery and his informal photos on his website www.krissoulphotography.co.uk Oh, and most importantly, he is extremely reasonably priced and does only CD packages. Good luck with your wedding!!
    I get very suspicious when two new members both join on the same day and both recommend the same photographer.

    I also consider some of the pictures on that website to be quite posey in my opinion and not really true reportage photography.

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    I would definitely recommend the photographer we have booked for our wedding - although we haven't had our wedding day yet, he has been very good so far. We went for a meeting with him before booking and he let us see 1000s of digital images of his photographs and I was very impressed - I am hard to please with photography as a do it as a hobby! He mainly does reportage photos so that he catches the atmosphere and will actually move away from guests if he spots them posing for the camera (i.e during drinks reception). He will do posed shots of bride and groom if you want too.

    He has a wide range of packages available - you can get digital only for around £400 - you will then get absolutely all your images (copyright included) and you can then decide whether you want to order any albums with his Supplier or do it yourself. He also works very closely with another photographer who you could get if you have a big wedding for an extra £150 - we have go for this so that one can be with me getting ready and the other at the church when all guests arrive and so there is not one photograher running about the church!

    http://www.rodirvine.co.uk/

    Reason I liked him so much was because his photos were just so natural...he also came to the church to view the venue and discuss being discreet with the minister (for free)!

    His studio is in his flat, but I wouldn't let that put you off as his photos are just brilliant (oh and he doesn't cost an arm and a leg too)!

    Hope this helps

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    Hi Gayle
    You are right, as I said "the pictures that my friend received were brilliant mix of informal and formal ones."
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephaniebird View Post
    jillian clark is who i have booked !! i love her work x
    We have also booked Jillian. She is lovely to deal with and I also love her work. We're meeting up with her in a few weeks at our venue to run through what we want and she's going to take a few shots of us.

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    Mike

    Thanks for your reply.

    Having looked at many photographers though MPA, BIPP or SWPP seems to be no guarantee of a decent standard of wedding photography. Luckily my fiancee's friend is a wedding photographer and he has given us lots of good advice on how to filter our amateurs from professionals. The best piece of advise I have received is to ask for links to full galleries and example wedding album designs. Most photographers can put together a nifty website with their greatest hits but actually producing consistency through a whole wedding album is something which only experienced wedding photographers can achieve. I am definitely going to short list 2-3 and go and meet them and look at real albums.

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    Oh defo go and meet the ones you shortlist, seeing whole albums is always a good thing to get a better idea.
    I'm not sure if you can always judge the quality of images on facebook and blogs as often you will see low res and unprocessed images. An album will give you a much better idea
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    Hi Sassenach

    I am waiting for one of my shortlisted photographers to send me an example of a recent album design. Not so easy to see the albums in person at the mo as I live and working in Buckinghamshire!

    Sarah

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    Full disclosure - this is my hubby to be... www.anddoyoutake.com
    I love Lillian & Leonard's stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah130413 View Post
    Hi Sassenach

    I am waiting for one of my shortlisted photographers to send me an example of a recent album design. Not so easy to see the albums in person at the mo as I live and working in Buckinghamshire!

    Sarah

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    A lot of photographers have sample album layouts on their website, though I am sure you have worked this out! And also don't forget the wonders of SKYPE. Great for getting a good feel for a photographer if you want to get someone booked but don't have the time to make it back up to Scotland!

    Also sorry if this has already been said, but most photographers should be able to tailor their style to meet with what you are looking for.

    Good luck with your search! you'll find someone perfect eventually so try not to stress!
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    Andrew

    Thanks for your post. I am learning that the ones without letters are actually generally better than those with letters! We are also weeding out the new starts who are unable to show any album designs or full weddings.

    Ruth

    Sorry I have to disagree. We are not going to book a cheap traditional photographer and ask them to be photojournalistic or fashion style. As Andrew we are concentrating on photographers that deliver consistent natural images and also images with real impact.

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    We took a decision a long time ago to avoid these organisations completely, who it would seem, accept something crazy like 20 images and a cheque to be accepted in to.
    Andrew, whilst I agree with the majority of what you're saying here, I think your description of the requirements to gain a qualification are a bit misleading, especially to brides reading this forum, as it suggests that you can "buy your way in", which, as someone who is currently working towards their "L" qualification myself, know that this is certainly not the case. My work has been constantly mentored and critiqued by a "Fellowship" photographer over the course of the last wedding season. As a result of this feedback, my photography has improved from wedding to wedding, which I believe would not have been the case had I not received the mentoring.

    Sarah, as photographers we all have a choice whether to join one of the organisations and go for qualifications. My own personal view is that with each qualification, the standard of my photography will improve and become more creative. Of course, being qualified does not mean that every bride will like my photography, as my style may not suit everyone and, as has been said before, the best option is still to meet with photographers, see plenty of their work (full weddings not just a "best of") and see if you have a rapport with them, which is equally important come the wedding day. But, as I've said before in a previous post, what you will get from using a photographer who is qualified, is somewhere to turn to should all not go to plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah130413 View Post
    Ruth

    Sorry I have to disagree. We are not going to book a cheap traditional photographer and ask them to be photojournalistic or fashion style. As Andrew we are concentrating on photographers that deliver consistent natural images and also images with real impact.

    Sarah

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    Perhaps I should have chosen some of my words more carefully but I don't believe there was a suggestion to book a "cheap traditional photographer". And if there was, that is certainly not what I intended.

    It goes without saying that you need to like your photographer, and their style and photos - I personally think in this order as I think if you and the photographer get on and they show an understanding of what you want you will be happy with your finished images.

    It sounds as though you are well on your way to finding someone so I just want to briefly comment that my personal opinion is that there is potentially a supply and demand issue here. I do not believe (from my personal experiences) that there is a massive demand in Scotland for completely journalistic coverage which is maybe, and only maybe (agree or disagree as you will), why you are struggling to find someone.

    This does not necessarily mean that other photographers do not take the more natural images. A good many photographers will still do a small or large amount of photojournalistic photography during a wedding these days (depending on the way they work). In my experience there is still generally a requirement for 'some' traditional group shots (normally relaxed ones) and a few posed couple shots outside of the more natural moments, at the very least.

    If there is not a huge demand for complete photojournalism you might see less of it than is potentially around, as whilst trying to get across our style, we have a judgement call to make on what we think will appeal to the most brides and grooms, and therefore what we display on our websites.

    The Photojournalistic approach is far bigger in London and the surrounding areas, if your budget allowed you to bring your own photographer with you. All that said the market is fairly saturated with good photographers up here - there must be someone out there perfect for you and I hope your dilemma is sorted soon. Not quite as brief as I had anticipated! I look forward to seeing who you choose! GOOD LUCK

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    Ruth

    You said "but most photographers should be able to tailor their style to meet with what you are looking for."

    We have found a number of photographers who's style we like and they all take the important formal photographs. Not aimed at you directly but we have found many photographers claiming a natural style who's work is predominantly stiff / staged and poorly processed so we will not be asking them to tailor their style.

    It's just so frustrating finding a photographer as quite frankly a lot of the photographers that are recommended on this forum appear to be new businesses offering cheap deals. Where as the reputable companies are hardly mentioned! We are almost there and are lucky in that my fiancee's friend is a professional and able to help us spot the wheat from the chaff of which there is plenty.

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    Oh dear, looks like you are having a hard time. Mind I'm pretty sure Nikki is neither cheap nor a newbie with more then 10 years in the business Hope you will find what you are looking for, I know it aint easy.
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    Def check Lillian & Leonard. They certainly couldn't be described as cheap but you get what you pay for and they are amazing. There is no posing with their pics at all although we did request 4 group shots x

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    Hi Aquamarine, Lillian and Leonard's work is very striking thanks for the suggestion as we hadn't come across these.

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